I found some words of wisdom this evening . . .let me share it here:
“Due to the complexity of many contemporary issues confronting the church, there will be a multiplicity of responses on the part of believers. We may therefore not all agree on how to respond to these challenges. Therefore, it is vital for believers to regard one another with love in spite of our differences, to agree to disagree uncontentiously on certain issues and to pledge to one another not to speak ill of a brother or sister in Christ (or of anyone) with whom we may not agree. Let our guiding principle be: “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity” (Eph. 4:29; 1 Cor. 13:4-7).”
Obviously, disagreement with someone is not speaking ill of them, nor is it “picking.” I’m glad to see that, apparently, you’ve rescinded your accusation, K. It’s good to see evidence that you’re giving others the benefit of thinking the best of them, as I’m sure you want them to give you.
Oops… That came out upside down!
I should have said, “Magnificent piece of advice, K, and very sound Scripturally.”
BTW, does anyone know where the quote, “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity” (In necessariis unitas, in non-necessariis (or, dubiis) libertas, in utrisque (or, omnibus) caritas) comes from? For many years is has been attributed to Augustine, but recent scholarship attributes it to “Paraenesis votiva pro Pace Ecclesiae ad Theologos Augustanae Confessionis”, by Rupert Meldenius.
Now that you guys have moved on to bigger and better things, I hesitate to even bring this up, but I wonder if they considered for one moment that the relationship that they were portraying between Guinevere and Lancelot was not one of a young virginal woman, but of a married Queen in an adulterous relationship. Some accounts say that she was childless, but other accounts of the legend say that she had two sons! A fine example of a wife and mother! (See Wikipedia/Google.) I recently watched The Other Boleyn something-or-other (because the Boleyns & Careys are in my family tree ;0) and the pious Catherine of Aragon would have been a better role model. (But then Henry wouldn’t have been… ;o)
I don’t see any problem with revising a piece of public domain art. And is there really anything wrong with having a picture where the man is above the woman? Is there anything wrong with having a man be taller than a woman?
The picture thing is certainly interesting, but I don’t see how it is wrong.
I’ve just come across this topic and it’s quite old.. but I’m going to comment anyways.
I find this blatant perversion of a beautiful, classic painting offensive and horrific. I find it offensive as a woman, and also as a Christian. Are we not all equal in God’s eyes? Surely God has seen the pain and unfairness suffered by woman for millenia at the hands of male-dominated societies, and surely he does not condone it.
This picture just epitomizes the historical sexism found in religion. I feel we must ask: Why? Why has the female position always been so pitiful in religion and religion-dominated society? Well.. basically all of human culture throughout the ages has been orchestrated with the purpose of controlling women sexually. A man’s most important interest is securing an heir to his fortune or dynasty, and the only way to insure legitimate heirs is to control the sex organs of the societies females. Naturally, an efficient way to achieve this is to tie sexuality to morality.
Also, throughout the history of the male-dominated church, women have been cast as evil. Females are cast as lewd and vicious temptresses.. conveniently excusing men from any blame for sexually immorality.
But I digress. The pervetted rendition of the painting above suggests that a Godly woman will submit to men, her husband, father, etc…
I will submit to no man or any number of men. I WILL KNEEL BEFORE NO ONE BUT GOD. I am strong, and independant, and intelligent, and free. And I am woman. I am God’s creation, and I am beautiful. And I believe that my independence and strength are beautiful in God eyes.
When I get married, I will not be “given.” I will choose my own mate, and he will be my equal.
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